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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Synthex » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:49 pm

kurtus420 wrote:Reserve one for me if you would kind sir ;)

Of course ;)

kurtus420 wrote:Can I get all of the components required for the additional 24 inputs from you.

Yes, you can.

kurtus420 wrote:Do you know what kind of memory megadrum will have with all 56 inputs as opposed to the 32 input version?

For 56 inputs, you must use an Atmega644.
New v3.1 kits will be supplied with an Atmega644.

kurtus420 wrote:Do we need to use 18F14K50 ic instead of the 18F2550? and will it come programmed?

18F14K50 and 18F2550 have the same function.
Of course, they will be programmed.

kurtus420 wrote:I wont be using pcb boards for my build to keep things compact but if I had to they would be stacked.

Finally, I will probably make a jacks PCB with stacked jacks.
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby kurtus420 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:08 pm

Thank you for the very nice response Synthex, much appreciated. :D
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Trommeltotti » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:16 pm

Synthex wrote:Finally, I will probably make a jacks PCB with stacked jacks.

Dear @Synthex again me :roll:

I hope you give me an honest opinion on my idea with that separate Breakout-Box for the MegaDrum unit. And again please think for drummers witch permanently have to mount and dismount their E-Drum set on stages with so many single jacks plugged to the rear side of the MegaDrum converter. Is it possible to built a Breakout-Box with maybe 2 stacked jacks PCB boards (each row with maybe 8 stacked jacks) means 4 rows up to 32 jacks total in that box? Those Breakout-Box could be fixed to the drum rack and connected with just one cable (maybe with 72pol connector) to the rear side connector of the MegaDrum converter. What do you think about this? Is this a realistic project? Thanks very much for answering.

With best regards

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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Synthex » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:32 pm

Trommeltotti wrote:I hope you give me an honest opinion on my idea with that separate Breakout-Box for the MegaDrum unit. And again please think for drummers witch permanently have to mount and dismount their E-Drum set on stages with so many single jacks plugged to the rear side of the MegaDrum converter. Is it possible to built a Breakout-Box with maybe 2 stacked jacks PCB boards (each row with maybe 8 stacked jacks) means 4 rows up to 32 jacks total in that box? Those Breakout-Box could be fixed to the drum rack and connected with just one cable (maybe with 72pol connector) to the rear side connector of the MegaDrum converter. What do you think about this? Is this a realistic project? Thanks very much for answering.

I will do 2 stacked jacks PCB boards :
One for the 32 inputs connector (HiHat, pedal, crash, ride, kick, snare, tom1 to tom4, aux1 to aux7).
One for the 24 inputs connector (aux8 to aux19).

Instead of using a ribbon cable to connect the main PCB to a jacks PCB,
you can use an external cable with connectors, and mount the jacks PCB in a Breakout-Box.

What do you think about this ? ;)
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby kurtus420 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:34 pm

Hey, I'm sort of entertaining this idea as well, my megadrum 32 enclosure is small at 7.09w X 8.11d X 2.52h Hammond 1598DSGY). I was thinking I might have to house the other 12 input jacks and pcb in a seperate enclosure if I can't fit both pcbs inside of this one, does anyone know if heat plays a factor here if I do install everything in this enclosure. I would use a pcb for the input jacks if I did it this way.
Synthex have you considered maybe adding a drill template as a guide to drill holes for the jacks pcb, or does the dimensions of jacks vary too much? Thanks

Trommeltotti wrote:
Synthex wrote:I will do a secondary board for the rest of the 56 inputs.

Do you want a jacks PCB for "stacked jacks" or for "single/normal jacks" ?


Hey @Synthex,

congratulation to your new 3.1 PCB Kit! Just for the available trigger-inputs compare to the ROLAND TD-20 I have to say: This is a real monster! :P (particularly if one compares the price) But for the connectivity I will think in a new dimension for handle this on stage. I mean it is very powerful to have so many 28 trigger-inputs but who likes to connect every day those many particular jacks to rear side of the unit?

My idea is to use a Breakout Box mounted at the drum rack for this. In this box you use maybe 4 "stacked jacks" (each with 8 jacks) with a new designed jacks PCB from you. From this Breakout Box you go out with one IDE connector cable to the rear side of the MegaDrum Interface (maybe 19" 1U rack box) with also one IDE connector. USB/Midi ports and supply power connector should also at the rear side from the interface. What do you think about this? Is this realistic? I think many drummers would have this feature for professional use on stage.

Thanks with best regards

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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby kurtus420 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:40 pm

You were reading my mind as I wrote my last post :lol:

Synthex wrote:
Trommeltotti wrote:I hope you give me an honest opinion on my idea with that separate Breakout-Box for the MegaDrum unit. And again please think for drummers witch permanently have to mount and dismount their E-Drum set on stages with so many single jacks plugged to the rear side of the MegaDrum converter. Is it possible to built a Breakout-Box with maybe 2 stacked jacks PCB boards (each row with maybe 8 stacked jacks) means 4 rows up to 32 jacks total in that box? Those Breakout-Box could be fixed to the drum rack and connected with just one cable (maybe with 72pol connector) to the rear side connector of the MegaDrum converter. What do you think about this? Is this a realistic project? Thanks very much for answering.

I will do 2 stacked jacks PCB boards :
One for the 32 inputs connector (HiHat, pedal, crash, ride, kick, snare, tom1 to tom4, aux1 to aux7).
One for the 24 inputs connector (aux8 to aux19).

Instead of using a ribbon cable to connect the main PCB to a jacks PCB,
you can use an external cable with connectors, and mount the jacks PCB in a Breakout-Box.

What do you think about this ? ;)
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Trommeltotti » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:35 pm

Synthex wrote:I will do 2 stacked jacks PCB boards :
One for the 32 inputs connector (HiHat, pedal, crash, ride, kick, snare, tom1 to tom4, aux1 to aux7).
One for the 24 inputs connector (aux8 to aux19).

Instead of using a ribbon cable to connect the main PCB to a jacks PCB,
you can use an external cable with connectors, and mount the jacks PCB in a Breakout-Box.

What do you think about this ? ;)


Dear @Synthex, thanks very much for answering 8-)

OK I try to understand this. For this design I will have on the front plugged side of the Breakout-Box 4 rows with altogether 29 jack inputs (one row with 9 jacks [1 jack for HiHat pedal] one row with 8 jacks and two rows with 6 jacks) right?

Should be looking like this: (sizes for the box about 20cm L x 10cm W x 5cm D)
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O O O O O O O O O

O O O O O O O O


O O O O O O

O O O O O O
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So I have 4 superposed PCB boards in this separate enclosure right? Which internal ribbon cable I have to use for this to connect all those 4 PCB boards with the One! external connector in this box? Of course The idea is to go out from that Breakout-box with one external cable to the on board connector at the trigger module. But which kind of D-sub connector is required for this? Maybe a 50pol D-sub or even a 72pol D-sub port? Can you please explain this.

Thanks very much with best regards
Trommeltotti
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Edit: "You were reading my mind as I wrote my last post"

Dear @kurtus420, sorry for this! Perhaps I did not understand at all your posts. My school English is maybe not on "world class level" so sometimes it could be possible to look beyond somebody here. Sorry again for this. ;)
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Synthex » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:05 pm

I think it will be very expensive to add an external inputs cable.
You must use a big cable with each input grounded, big connectors, ...

The best solution is to add the megadrum main board in this Breakout-box ... ;)
And connect your laptop with the USB.
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby kurtus420 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:17 pm

Trommeltotti, I'm the one who should appologize :oops: , this comment was directed at Synthex about his idea of using the extension cable to a breakout box. Thanks for your idea, this has helped me. Kurt
Trommeltotti wrote:
Synthex wrote:I will do 2 stacked jacks PCB boards :
One for the 32 inputs connector (HiHat, pedal, crash, ride, kick, snare, tom1 to tom4, aux1 to aux7).
One for the 24 inputs connector (aux8 to aux19).

Instead of using a ribbon cable to connect the main PCB to a jacks PCB,
you can use an external cable with connectors, and mount the jacks PCB in a Breakout-Box.

What do you think about this ? ;)


Dear @Synthex, thanks very much for answering 8-)

OK I try to understand this. For this design I will have on the front plugged side of the Breakout-Box 4 rows with altogether 29 jack inputs (one row with 9 jacks [1 jack for HiHat pedal] one row with 8 jacks and two rows with 6 jacks) right?

Should be looking like this: (sizes for the box about 20cm L x 10cm W x 5cm D)
___________________________________

O O O O O O O O O

O O O O O O O O


O O O O O O

O O O O O O
___________________________________

So I have 4 superposed PCB boards in this separate enclosure right? Which internal ribbon cable I have to use for this to connect all those 4 PCB boards with the One! external connector in this box? Of course The idea is to go out from that Breakout-box with one external cable to the on board connector at the trigger module. But which kind of D-sub connector is required for this? Maybe a 50pol D-sub or even a 72pol D-sub port? Can you please explain this.

Thanks very much with best regards
Trommeltotti
Germany

Edit: "You were reading my mind as I wrote my last post"

Dear @kurtus420, sorry for this! Perhaps I did not understand at all your posts. My school English is maybe not on "world class level" so sometimes it could be possible to look beyond somebody here. Sorry again for this. ;)
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Re: >>> KIT AVAILABLE <<< All In One v2.8 PCB Kit to sell !

Postby Trommeltotti » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:18 pm

Synthex wrote:I think it will be very expensive to add an external inputs cable.
You must use a big cable with each input grounded, big connectors, ...

The best solution is to add the megadrum main board in this Breakout-box ... ;)
And connect your laptop with the USB.


Thanks again for fast reply.

Sure, for settlement of costs your are right. But I think fitting the hole module to the drum rack is not the best solution. Damage this at daily transport could be inevitable. I prefer to fit the proper MegaDrum interface in a secure 19" rack. And what is expensive for E-Drums? I think just a ROLAND TD-20 module with technique from the last century and awful on board Sounds up to 1650,00 EURO is really expensive.

But please again. Do you have an idea witch sort of external cable and connectors are needed for this? Do you have experience with those connectivity? Thanks very much for helping.

Edit: For the cable: maybe this is not cheap but I need just 1 meter distance from the stable Metal Breakout-box with just the Jack plugs inside fitted to my Pearl drum rack up to the rear side input from the MegaDrum interface secure fitted in a professional 19" rack system closed to the drum rack!

Edit again: "each input grounded" What does it mean? Can I conflates all that ground pins to to some pins? So how many pins are needed?

Best regards
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