? Harp experience ?

[Sylv1co]

You will have to do it in software which modifies all notes played based on MIDI CC data recevied from the HiHad pedal position. I don't know if any software can or cannot do it.

In cubase, no problem, you can use the input transformer which can set the note depending on the CC04 level.
There's a simple exemple in the Cubase manual that shows how to get filter all note off messages when pressing a sustain pedal. It's quite the same here, just set the filter to transform (instead of filter) and "pitch " to add 1 (= + & semi tone).
I'm sure there's many small VST (made with synthedit) which can make the same job with another vst host.

Just curiosity, which VST would you use to get harp sound ?

[artefakt]

I see, this is an easy way, thanks for that!

and Cubase could handle 36 "sustain -pedals?" (one for each string)

Another question about Cubase: could I tune the notes to be played?
(Some harpists like to have not the well-tempered tuning)

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About the harp-sound, you asked:

I thought to route the audiosignal from the Piezos too, so I can plug the harp
accoustically into a mixer.

So I have the clear harp-sound, and can mix midi layers under and over it.

I understand this as a sort of glue. Because some details get lost in the midification.

The harp has to be good in tune for that....

But this is something the harp-player has to solve. Aren´t there good samples for harp
on the market, thomann sells a whole orchestra-sound library, I don't know about the quality.

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Next week I get the piezos, so I can start the project not only theoretically.

Good weekend to all, Klaus

[Sylv1co]

I see, this is an easy way, thanks for that!

and Cubase could handle 36 "sustain -pedals?" (one for each string)

You'll get only one pedal, cubase will increase each NoteOn# that arrive to one semi tone if the pedal is pressed.

Another question about Cubase: could I tune the notes to be played?

Almost everything you may need with midi has already be thought by someone in the world and the solution already exist, that's a fact. Many free VST should provide you a way to tune the note as you want.

About the harp-sound, you asked:

I thought to route the audiosignal from the Piezos too, so I can plug the harp
accoustically into a mixer.

So I have the clear harp-sound, and can mix midi layers under and over it.

I don't really understand why you need midi... Megadrum will not send any audio message to your computer...

[artefakt]

Thanks again for your answer,
so no software sulution for that.

still megadrum is very interesting for another harp type without levers, or pedals.


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why midi:


I thought to route to audiosignal as well in the megadrum modul, but also beside to an audiojack.
So it is usable, if you want.

Wouldn´t you do that with a real piano , too?

I just wanted to explain, that the one sound midi could do, I already have in a good quality



As a harpmaker I live from the orders and wishes of harpplayers, and one is having a midiharp.
I find that exciting too.

The worlds most famost harp players, Alan Stivell, Rüdiger Oppermann, and so on, create
very interesting soundscapes with midi harps.

So if anyone has a 7 / or 36 switches idea for semitones I´m very gratefull.

Best regards, Klaus

[Sylv1co]

So if anyone has a 7 / or 36 switches idea for semitones I´m very gratefull.

I think you misunderstood me, a simple sustain pedal plugged into the HH input of megadrum will do the job, cubase can increase the note of each string to 1 semitone if the pedal is pressed. Or it's not the same on a real Harp ? you don't have 7 pedal on your harp, no ? Is it one pedal for each note (A,B,C,D,E,F and G) ?


Also if you mant to use the audio signal from your harp, maybe the cheap small round piezos you plan to use are not the best to get a good sound...
A quick search give me this product : http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Pickups:_Guitar,_electric/L_R_Baggs_T-Bridge.html
Each string has it's own output. It's expensive but if you want to use the audio signal, the sound will be great. (but still a piezo sound, not as realistic as with a condenser mic...)
Godin uses LR baggs piezo pickup on their guitars (I've got one, sounds great!)

[kupooglop]

If you haven't already, I would suggest you contact this guyhttp://www.kortier.com/midiconv.htm
It looks like he has already done what you are trying to do.

[artefakt]

Hi there!
The Drum modul arrived, thanks, Dmitri!

From all questions the most urgent:

For my purpose I have to use smaller piezos, than the 20/30mm roundlings.
They do not have the power like the big ones. I hardly bring a signal
into MD.
Is there a way to have MD more sensitive ?

(when I plug a smaller Piezo under a string, and route the audiosignal
into a mixer, its a clear and loud sound,
in MD its hard to have the input- lamp flickering at all)
With the bigger piezos - no problem.

Thanks to all, Klaus

[dmitri]

Raise Gain.
Lower Threshold
Set HighLevel low so that the weak signals still produce high velocity MIDI.

[magicmountain]

I built a single action pedal harp in 1990, and created midi using 12 induction coils on the wire strings and voice activated relays converting a signal to a switch. cannibalized a yamaha PSR90 keyboard and added a pedal box with 14 pedals to scroll through keyboard sounds and octave divide plus sustain and reverb through an effects processor.

I also had triggering switches on the nylon strings which worked fine for playing chords.

Lag and crosstalk was the problem, overcame the lag with a variable resistor. Crosstalk needed a diode on each application, it was a nightmare to perform on, although i did some recordings, and abandoned the project.

Have since contacted Kortier re: his piezo midi pickups and processor and offered to purchase. re: pedal changes, i had a series of micro switches under each pedal.

Havent recieved a reply from Kortier.

is there anyone out there able to source suitable piezo's