Video of MIDI log

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Video of MIDI log

Postby dschrammie » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 pm

Okay, so I thought I had some things set properly. But when I started up Superior and started striking cymbals, I noticed that in Superior the cymbal strike would go back and forth from the intended cymbal voice to some random cymbal. This was happening on most of the cymbals including the high hat. So I opened up Megadrum Manager to see what was going on in the MIDI log. Now, in watching the video it seems clear that I have some retrigger issues to address on some of the pads - but that's a different subject. The main thing that I'm hoping someone can give some recommendations is why the struck pad is alternating between the intended note and "no" note...meaning one strike registers a note #51 and the next strike registers note #0. Some of the strikes are also triggering the choke on/choke off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SZNvhZA_20

The video is about 5 minutes...kind of long I guess, but I wanted to make sure that I gave as clear a view of what's going on as possible.
Any thoughts on what I should look at adjusting to make these incorrect triggers stop?

Of note, one thing that I did just before this video was setting the "All EdgeSw". Should High Level Auto be on when setting the switch level? Does it matter?
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Re: Video of MIDI log

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:34 pm

dschrammie wrote:Okay, so I thought I had some things set properly. But when I started up Superior and started striking cymbals, I noticed that in Superior the cymbal strike would go back and forth from the intended cymbal voice to some random cymbal. This was happening on most of the cymbals including the high hat. So I opened up Megadrum Manager to see what was going on in the MIDI log. Now, in watching the video it seems clear that I have some retrigger issues to address on some of the pads - but that's a different subject. The main thing that I'm hoping someone can give some recommendations is why the struck pad is alternating between the intended note and "no" note...meaning one strike registers a note #51 and the next strike registers note #0. Some of the strikes are also triggering the choke on/choke off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SZNvhZA_20

1. Alternating notes are because Alt Note and Pressroll Note set to 0.
2. Triggering choke when hit on the switch either mean Threshold is to high or the switch implementation causes it to stay shorted for too long

The video is about 5 minutes...kind of long I guess, but I wanted to make sure that I gave as clear a view of what's going on as possible.
Any thoughts on what I should look at adjusting to make these incorrect triggers stop?

Of note, one thing that I did just before this video was setting the "All EdgeSw". Should High Level Auto be on when setting the switch level? Does it matter?

It doesn't matter.
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Re: Video of MIDI log

Postby dschrammie » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:24 pm

dmitri wrote:1. Alternating notes are because Alt Note and Pressroll Note set to 0.

Okay. I guess I had assumed if the notes were set to 0 that would be the same as disabling. Looks like I can either put a check in the "disable" box, or just name the Alt Note the same as the Master note.

dmitri wrote:2. Triggering choke when hit on the switch either mean Threshold is to high or the switch implementation causes it to stay shorted for too long.

Well, it's also triggering choke when I strike pads that don't have an edge switch at all. Like single zone cymbals, or even my kick drum. So I'm assuming that perhaps my threshold on the cymbal that is chokeable is too low? Guess I'll have to experiment with the threshold of the edge zone on my crash and see if it changes anything at all.
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Re: Video of MIDI log

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:56 pm

dschrammie wrote:So I'm assuming that perhaps my threshold on the cymbal that is chokeable is too low? Guess I'll have to experiment with the threshold of the edge zone on my crash and see if it changes anything at all.

The Threshold on the switch input might be right on the edge between open and closed and it indeed can cause false chokes.
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